La Monte Young - The Black Album

Metallica. Jay-Z. Prince. The Damned. L.S.G. The Dandy Warhols. La Monte Young. What have these artists got in common? All have recorded albums called "The Black Album"! La Monte Young's The Black Album contains two more of his 60s minimalist compositions. Thanks to christian for sending me the cover art.

I can't find any information on it at all, let alone cover art or somewhere to buy it. Maybe it doesn't exist!

The Black Album

25 Comments:

At 12:47 PM, Blogger Bruno B said...

Thanks for posting this, I never thought I'd get to hear this record. La Monte has the LP for sale on the MELA foundation website - for $300.
The first piece for voice and sinewave is particularly engrossing. The second piece seems to cut off and has over 10 minutes of complete silence at the end, what happened there?

 
At 2:30 PM, Blogger knowby said...

Alas, I didn't rip this (or hardly any of the music on this blog) myself, so I don't know! I must start doing a better job of checking these audio files all the way through for quality!

 
At 3:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey,
Are you from Mars?
Many thanks.

 
At 7:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.thewire.co.uk/archive/essays/la_monte_young.html

"Young and Zazeela recorded their first full length album 20 years earlier in Munich for Heiner Friedrich's Edition X label. It was Friedrich who later found the couple's Dream House in Harrison Street, New York. A limited edition of 2000, 98 of which were signed and dated by the artists, it came to be known as The Black Record, thanks to Zazeela's black on black cover and label artwork. Side one is a section of Map Of 49's Dream, performed by Young on sinewave drone and voice, with vocal accompaniment by Zazeela. Side two's extract from Study For The Bowed Disc features the duo bowing a gong given to them by sculptor Robert Morris. He had made it for his dance piece, War, and asked Young to play it for the performance. Afterwards Morris presented the gong to Young, and he started to experiment on it with double bass bows. If you follow Young's recommendation to turn it up and play it slow, the resulting low, thrilling drone is at once spiritual and slightly threatening, as though dark forces are being summoned to the surface. Long before Keiji Haino adopted black to shroud himself and his work, Marian Zazeela was embedding her calligraphic lettering and designs in purple and black. The point is to focus on her artwork while concentrating on the vocal/sinewave drones of Young's dream music."

 
At 7:31 PM, Blogger knowby said...

Great! Thanks anonymous.

 
At 1:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you didn't rip it, you didn't really listen to it and you have nothing to say about it - what exactly are you "sharing"?

 
At 2:52 AM, Blogger knowby said...

I listened to much of it. I'm sharing music that is extremely rare and may be of interest to many people. At least, I try.

 
At 9:23 AM, Anonymous mg said...

Great! Thanks anonymous.

no prob, knowby. i'm trying to hunt down a full version (if there is one) but its not easy!

p.s. - the other anon. posts aren't me btw. guess i need to start using a name so as not to be confused w/ the other jerks ;)

 
At 12:42 PM, Anonymous op said...

from the liner notes image in the mp3 files, Study For Bowed Gong plays for 20:15 at 33rpm. The extra on the end of the mp3 is probably overrecording from the initial rip.....


On another note: I just obtained a 21 Volume set of La Monte Young material, supposedly from a label called "Archive". Looks like boots of issued and archival material, with little or no information, not even track lists. The quality is spotty, lotsa hiss and dropouts. Any of you LaMonte Young scholars know anything about this?

Here's the list:


VOL. 1,FOR BRASS DBLCD

VOL. 2,RAGA BY RAVA DBLCD

VOL. 3,COMPOSITION 1960 #7 DBLCD

VOL. 4,COMPOSITION 1960 #7,CONT. DBLCD

VOL. 5,DAY OF GAMMEDEON DBLCD

VOL. 6,PANDT PRAN NATH CD

VOL. 7,THE WELL TUNED PIANO,VOLS. 1,2 DBLCD

VOL. 8,THE WELL TUNED PIANO,VOLS. 3,4 DBLCD

VOL. 9,THE WELL TUNED PIANO,VOL. 5 CD

VOL. 10,KRONOS KRYSTALS DBLCD

VOL. 11,FOREVER BAD BOYS BLUES BAND,YOUNG DORIAN BLUES IN A DBLCD

VOL. 12,X119 OF ETERNAL MUSIC FOR BRASS ‘58 DBLCD

VOL. 13,FOREVER BAD BOYS BLUES BAND,YOUNG DORIAN BLUES OF ETERNAL MUSIC CD

VOL. 14,BOWED GONG OF ETERNAL MUSIC CD

VOL. 15,SECOND DREAM CD

VOL. 16,DREAM HOUSE . 5-DAY OF GAMMEDEON,ETC.CD

VOL. 17,DREAMS IN CHINA CD

VOL. 18,THE TORTISE CD

VOL 19,INTERVIEW,VOLS. 1,2 DBLCD

VOL 20,INTERVIEW,VOLS. 3,4 DBLCD

VOL 21,FOREVER BAD BOYS BLUES BAND,JUST STOMPIN DBLCD

P.S. I'd be happy to post some of this, once I've sifted through it...

 
At 4:47 PM, Anonymous mg said...

Gaah, 21 volumes? Holy hell, you scored big-time. Looks like they are full(er) versions of the pieces featured on the 4 disc set I upped. I'd def. be interested in disc 15 at least.

 
At 4:51 PM, Anonymous mg said...

oh and the hiss and dropouts might be attributed to it having been recorded from a radio broadcast. some of the boots floating around are known to be just that

 
At 11:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

knowby--regardless of who ripped it and any problems with the rip, it was certainly worth it. many people value music differently.

please continue doing a great service. I'm sorry I cannot help with any of your requests.

 
At 3:29 PM, Anonymous op said...

Here you go mb.

This is Volume 15, titled Second Dream on the cover. I'm assuming it's a version of The Second Dream of The High-Tension Line Stepdown Transformer. One track, 77 minutes. Cover scan included.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/tdk97h

If anyone has any more info on these please chime in. Thanks knowby for starting this conversation in the first place...

 
At 3:34 PM, Anonymous op said...

i meant mg, not mb....

 
At 6:40 PM, Blogger Loopy C said...

'I'm sharing music that is extremely rare and may be of interest to many people. At least, I try.'

...you try and succeed.

Actually, in the classical world this kind of snooty, uncalled-for insult disguised as a rhetorical question is usually reserved for the 'serious' publications and their holier-than-thou critics, I guess you have arrived ;-)

All information and CONTRIBUTIONS concerning Young have been greatly enjoyed here, thanks!

 
At 7:57 PM, Anonymous johann hauser said...

La Monte Young music is very hard to find in the Internet.

Thanks for sharing it.

j.

 
At 10:06 PM, Anonymous mg said...

thanks op! i suspect you are right about it being "second dream of high tension wire", which is one of my favorites and i'm anxious to hear this long version. what are the "dreams in china" and "day of gammedeon" discs like?

i have to say "bowed gong" from the black album might be the most menacing (in a good way) piece of music i've heard yet

 
At 10:28 PM, Anonymous mg said...

er, "high tension line" i meant. apparently Gramavision released a version of it on cd in 1991.

Composition 1960 #7 consists of a B, an F#, and the instruction: "To be held for a long time."

 
At 8:28 AM, Anonymous sunra said...

Op, im a great fan of La Monte. Im real interested in the following volumes (if possible of course. Maybe its asking to much but anyway):
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 17, 18

thanks

 
At 4:42 PM, Anonymous op said...

I'll eventually get them all up, and will post them here. I'm still trying to figure out tracklists, as info is almost non-existant on the discs I got.

 
At 11:58 AM, Anonymous Obacht! said...

op, many thanks for this #15. it reminds me on a concert of charles curtis in berlin 2 years ago when he played a 3 hour long young composition in berlin. i am very interested in other volumes too and your efforts would be much appreciated.
equal thanks go to knowby - a small but high-quality blog you're doing!

 
At 4:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those 21 volumes are EXTREMELY crappy bootlegs... Some songs are repeated on different volumes... Crap sound, crap presentation... I ordered two to see and threw them in the garbage. Total waste of money if you ask me... The german four CD-R known as the Purple Set is really nice however... if you can find a copy.

 
At 2:52 AM, Anonymous hungry. said...

the actual name of this album is 31 VII 69 10:26 - 10:49 pm Munich From Map Of 49's Dream The Two Systems Of Eleven Sets Of Galactic Intervals Ornamental Light Years Tracery/23 VIII 64 2:50:45 - 3:11 am The Volga Delta From Studies In The Bowed Disc, if anyone cares :)

the tracks are:
1. 31 VII 69 10:26 - 10:49 pm Munich From Map Of 49's Dream The Two Systems Of Eleven Sets Of Galactic Intervals Ornamental Light Years Tracery (23:03)
2. 23 VIII 64 2:50:45 - 3:11 am The Volga Delta From Studies In The Bowed Disc (20:21)

the original marian zazeela (who this album is co-credited to) artwork (which explains why it's known as "the black album") as well as a better version of the inner sleeve (the pic you have up now) are here:
http://chasm-filler.blogspot.com/2008/12/la-monte-young-black-record.html

thanks so much for the great site. any chance of re-upping "just stompin'"?

 
At 6:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have this album and wish to sell it, if anyone is interested.

 
At 10:17 PM, Blogger Dan Bailey said...

Any chance of re-upping? I'd love either the 21-vol set or the 4-vol set. Willing to purchase.

 

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